US Elections 2024 - the most consequential election again!

[r2somewhere]

The only saving grace is that Trump is "all talk and no action" as opposed to Obama who was a doer that actually deported many more millions than T ever did. T would be busy relitigating the 2020 elections and pardoning the insurrectionists.

Trump will predictably fail to deport illegals. But he wants headlines of crying brown people on TV. How will he get that? Simple - by targeting desis on H1B.

[SAPPORO]

Allowing illegals is a slap on the face of people like me who followed the law. They should all be deported. There is absolutely no reason for illegals to be given any leeway. As for US citizens born here, they can either go back with parents and come back when ready or they can live in foster homes. But they cannot be used as crutches for people not following the law.

Unfortunately, deporting is too expensive and cannot be done for millions. Especially by a country thats living on borrowed means.

If Trump were a successful businessman and the greatest deal-maker, he would fix immigration by granting work permits and SSN online for anyone that's already in the US, build a big beautiful "Great wall of Mexico" (he can charge Mexico for naming rights) to keep out more migrants, Immediate issuance of GC for those that are here for more than X years, paying taxes and staying out of trouble like every other developed country does and obviously deport the criminals even if they're legal. US needs more people and not less to shore up social security, to reduce medical costs and inflation. What better people to add to the population mix than the "hatta-katta" migrant youth and wait, there's more - they can make more babies too, Elon's dream!

[r2somewhere]

What better people to add to the population mix than the "hatta-katta" migrant youth and wait, there's more - they can make more babies too, Elon's dream!

Elon's dream is more white babies.

[SAPPORO]

What better people to add to the population mix than the "hatta-katta" migrant youth and wait, there's more - they can make more babies too, Elon's dream!

Elon's dream is more white babies.

Yes, racism is the only reason all this will not be done, otherwise all T needs is a handful of GOP congress members to pass it since most Dems would support it. It would be a good political move for GOP as well since most Hispanics are socially conservative and vote republican ultimately as they consider blacks as their common 'enemy' - see how Cuban Americans are a reliable GOP voting block.
A lot of Mexicans consider themselves as whites especially those with "non-adulterated " European genes, so they claim. They look down upon the brown natives. (as illustrated to me by my tour guide)

[r2somewhere]

What better people to add to the population mix than the "hatta-katta" migrant youth and wait, there's more - they can make more babies too, Elon's dream!

Elon's dream is more white babies.

Yes, racism is the only reason all this will not be done, otherwise all T needs is a handful of GOP congress members to pass it since most Dems would support it. It would be a good political move for GOP as well since most Hispanics are socially conservative and vote republican ultimately as they consider blacks as their common 'enemy' - see how Cuban Americans are a reliable GOP voting block.
A lot of Mexicans consider themselves as whites especially those with "non-adulterated " European genes, so they claim. They look down upon the brown natives. (as illustrated to me by my tour guide)

People like to do mental gymnastics to explain MAGA without the racism. But its really that simple. They are a whites first movement. What they consider white might be a little more flexible with white-passing Hispanics like Cubans getting in. Indians have 0 chance.

[Returning_Indian]

Allowing illegals is a slap on the face of people like me who followed the law. They should all be deported. There is absolutely no reason for illegals to be given any leeway. As for US citizens born here, they can either go back with parents and come back when ready or they can live in foster homes. But they cannot be used as crutches for people not following the law.

Unfortunately, deporting is too expensive and cannot be done for millions. Especially by a country thats living on borrowed means.

If Trump were a successful businessman and the greatest deal-maker, he would fix immigration by granting work permits and SSN online for anyone that's already in the US, build a big beautiful "Great wall of Mexico" (he can charge Mexico for naming rights) to keep out more migrants, Immediate issuance of GC for those that are here for more than X years, paying taxes and staying out of trouble like every other developed country does and obviously deport the criminals even if they're legal. US needs more people and not less to shore up social security, to reduce medical costs and inflation. What better people to add to the population mix than the "hatta-katta" migrant youth and wait, there's more - they can make more babies too, Elon's dream!

that's wet dream of democrats.

All the illegals need to be removed and they need to come back via proper channels. If there is demand of workers then visa quotas for seasonal workers need to be increased and they need to come via proper channels. Not sure why it is complicated to understand/follow. This is why laws are made, otherwise what's the point. It's not a guideline, it's a law.

They have broken the law. Not sure what does it have to do with racism if their removal is being planned. Amnesty was already done once in 1984 saying it will never repeat again and here we are. If one keeps on giving amnesty then it will keep on happening. In any case your comment is clear that you don't care about people follow the law or not in case of illegal immigrants. But you are critical about people protesting on Jan 6th. Selective application?

[SAPPORO]

that's wet dream of democrats.

All the illegals need to be removed and they need to come back via proper channels. If there is demand of workers then visa quotas for seasonal workers need to be increased and they need to come via proper channels. Not sure why it is complicated to understand/follow. This is why laws are made, otherwise what's the point.

They have broken the law. Not sure what does it have to do with racism if their removal is being planned. Amnesty was already done once in 1984 saying it will never repeat again and here we are. If one keeps on giving amnesty then it will keep on happening. In any case your comment is clear that you don't care about people follow the law or not. But you are critical about people protesting on Jan 6th. Selective application?

There is no contradiction - US just elected a felon for reasons of 'economy' and the same applies to the mass deportation (threats). It's just going to cost billions in time and resources to carry out this. Anyways, T is never going to carry out the mass deportations since if completed, it will no longer be an election issue.

Let' not bring up Raegan, he was a true leader that got things done and not a snake oil salesman like Trump.

PS: A majority of those that entered are strictly speaking, legals pending asylum hearings. The bipartisan immigration bill was supposed to help reduce the backlogs and deport those that did not qualify, and T interfered and squashed it for what else but political reasons.

[Returning_Indian]

that's wet dream of democrats.

All the illegals need to be removed and they need to come back via proper channels. If there is demand of workers then visa quotas for seasonal workers need to be increased and they need to come via proper channels. Not sure why it is complicated to understand/follow. This is why laws are made, otherwise what's the point.

They have broken the law. Not sure what does it have to do with racism if their removal is being planned. Amnesty was already done once in 1984 saying it will never repeat again and here we are. If one keeps on giving amnesty then it will keep on happening. In any case your comment is clear that you don't care about people follow the law or not. But you are critical about people protesting on Jan 6th. Selective application?

There is no contradiction - US just elected a felon for reasons of 'economy' and the same applies to the mass deportation (threats). It's just going to cost billions in time and resources to carry out this. Anyways, T is never going to carry out the mass deportations since if completed, it will no longer be an election issue.

Let' not bring up Raegan, he was a true leader that got things done and not a snake oil salesman like Trump.

PS: A majority of those that entered are strictly speaking, legals pending asylum hearings. The bipartisan immigration bill was supposed to help reduce the backlogs and deport those that did not qualify, and T interfered and squashed it for what else but political reasons.

You are mixing up issues. Trump getting elected doesn't mean it's purge night type of situation. It's really simple, people did not follow the law. They need to go back and come via legal channels like rest of us. No exceptions. They need to wait in line for 20yrs like rest of the world does. If there is demand by US business then they can apply via H2 seasonal visa and come thru right channel.

Why would some criminals get priority over others not breaking the law? Why would gujjus who decided to overstay on tourist visa get priority over a doctor who is following the law for last 20yrs and paying through the nose.

As for asylum, there are millions waiting to come in US and there is a proper method to claim it. There is also a quota to how many asylum seekers are allowed. There is a system that needs to be followed. Otherwise why make the law in first place?

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It's always about dollars and cents and what's practical. We did not build the and there a pent-up demand due to Covid. There may be an annual limit on asylum approvals but there is no limit on applications, and one cannot apply for asylum from their home country since it does not make sense, they have to show up at the border to apply for asylum.

Regarding the Gujju/doctor, it's timing and life is unfair. Why did I have to pay dollar-a-minute back in the day to call India whereas folks now are yapping away on WA videocalls for hours? How come there is no pension when we are about to retire? On the flipside, how come I was lucky enough to apply for a GC right after AC21 was passed?

To make it fairer, Doctors would get immediate GCs and the undocumented would get a simple permit document to make them pay taxes and have to wait for x years to even apply for a GC. I bet Desis on H1 with no hopes of ever getting a GC would kill for that kind of deal.

All of this is moot since no one would do anything about it, status-quo would prevail, and Musk & Vance would be trying to force Americans to have more babies to counter the population decline.

[SAPPORO]

Maybe H1B folks that feel threatened by T, can start learning Japanese! Didn't know there is a Desi snack Mogul in Japan.
https://www.newsweek.com/ceo-japan-news ... on-2002519