Americans, especially right wingers, love virtue signaling. Their virtue is cruelty towards unluckier people.SAPPORO wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:48 amI don't want any one of them to be deported. I want them to be legalized tax-paying residents. I was just pointing out T's bluster and how he's taking "poorly educated" Americans for a ride!RBee wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:34 am Atleast in CA, majority of illegal immigrants work really hard. There might be some few bad apples who might opt crime as way to live but rest are the ones who work in farms in central CA, the ones maintaining lawns of all multi milionaires, road constructions, rebuilding houses affected by wildfire, janitorial duties etc. Not seen caucasian Americans or the Asian Americans working on these menial jobs.
So if 856/day were deported during Biden era, were those criminals?
Also for a country trying to increase working age population, is 856X365= 312,440 such a burden?
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yes Americans would do the jobs as wages will go up. It's not that Americans are not willing to do hard work. It's the wage that matters. This whole theory that Americans are not willing is fabricated agenda. Illegals should be deported and if country needs they can import workers legally. Otherwise, it's a slap on the faces of people who slog through the legal system.RBee wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:34 am Atleast in CA, majority of illegal immigrants work really hard. There might be some few bad apples who might opt crime as way to live but rest are the ones who work in farms in central CA, the ones maintaining lawns of all multi milionaires, road constructions, rebuilding houses affected by wildfire, janitorial duties etc. Not seen caucasian Americans or the Asian Americans working on these menial jobs.
So if 856/day were deported during Biden era, were those criminals?
Also for a country trying to increase working age population, is 856X365= 312,440 such a burden?
Alternatively, congress can just pass the laws to make it open borders without any numbers capping it. Let everyone have equal opportunity to enter.
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No fabricated agenda. Proven facts from people who prepare these stats as a FT job.Returning_Indian wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:03 pm yes Americans would do the jobs as wages will go up. It's not that Americans are not willing to do hard work. It's the wage that matters. This whole theory that Americans are not willing is fabricated agenda. Illegals should be deported and if country needs they can import workers legally. Otherwise, it's a slap on the faces of people who slog through the legal system.
Alternatively, congress can just pass the laws to make it open borders without any numbers capping it. Let everyone have equal opportunity to enter.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-im ... ers-taxes/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/despite-ec ... farm-work/
CA contributes 1/3 of the fruits/vegetables grown in US and if not these workers, we will be importing everything from outside like how UAE does

https://www.ncesc.com/geographic-faq/wh ... a-produce/
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Americans freaked out over a little inflation and people expect they will pay 50,000 a year to Stacy or Kevin to pick fruits and then pay $20 per apple lol
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The demand for cheap farm labor has been there at least since 1940s.
Lest the Americans learn from history as in Bracero program and the despicable operation wetback, GOP needs to keep them poorly educated so much so that they now want to tax college scholarships just to pay for tax cuts to their buddies.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/hou ... -118616489
Lest the Americans learn from history as in Bracero program and the despicable operation wetback, GOP needs to keep them poorly educated so much so that they now want to tax college scholarships just to pay for tax cuts to their buddies.
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The reason why Dems keep getting their a**es handed to them in every election. House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries saying this out publicly in a presser
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Trump "pauses" enforcement of US law forbidding bribery of foreign officials because "it's good for business."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump- ... 025-02-10/
Should go a step further and also pause the law on bribing domestic officials - should be even better for business.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump- ... 025-02-10/
Should go a step further and also pause the law on bribing domestic officials - should be even better for business.
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But MAGA is going gaga over Trump signing executive order saving plastic straws - stranger than fiction!nodegree wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:10 pm Trump "pauses" enforcement of US law forbidding bribery of foreign officials because "it's good for business."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump- ... 025-02-10/
Should go a step further and also pause the law on bribing domestic officials - should be even better for business.
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A personal request for a new executive action to Mr.T!
My pet peeve is that every time I have to select the country on online forms, I have to always scroll all the way down to the bottom to choose 'United States'. For God sakes, Afghanistan comes up first - either change the name of the country starting with AA, AB, AC, AD, AE or at least change the official name of the country to just 'America' to make it to the top 4.
My pet peeve is that every time I have to select the country on online forms, I have to always scroll all the way down to the bottom to choose 'United States'. For God sakes, Afghanistan comes up first - either change the name of the country starting with AA, AB, AC, AD, AE or at least change the official name of the country to just 'America' to make it to the top 4.
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How about 1America? It'll always show up at the top and we can be No. 1SAPPORO wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:58 am A personal request for a new executive action to Mr.T!
My pet peeve is that every time I have to select the country on online forms, I have to always scroll all the way down to the bottom to choose 'United States'. For God sakes, Afghanistan comes up first - either change the name of the country starting with AA, AB, AC, AD, AE or at least change the official name of the country to just 'America' to make it to the top 4.