US Elections 2024 - the most consequential election again!

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nodegree wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 9:06 pm
SAPPORO wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 4:31 pm Kamala might lose PA, but she should more than make up for it with southern states like a couple of GA, NC, AZ, NV and FL. There are 300K non-cat eating voters of Haitian origin along with the six-week abortion ban in FL should deliver the KO punch. The polls are skewed since they don't take into account the participation levels of specific demographics (Youth/Women/AA), they look at only their typical representation levels much like the underestimating of Trump's rural support in 2016.
Lastly, KH should win because she would not agree at all with any of the above and is taking nothing for granted.
Will FL swing again? I highly doubt it. The polling spread was really wide in 2020. PA will be very tight and it all comes down to voter turnout in Philly.
Banning abortion at 6 weeks is crazy and it needs 60% to be overturned which should ensure high female turnout. Hillary lost by only a point in 2016.
300K "non-'Cat-eating' Haitians can help FL flip as well.
Have fun with the forecast tool below by changing win and participation percentages for specific demographics.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/20 ... 5WQ-lFxDSt
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https://www.newsweek.com/data-scientist ... on-1955575
My strategy is to bet for Trump on the same Predictit market, so it does not sting that much in the off chance that Trump wins!
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Trump getting a taste of his own medicine!
Americans got desensitized to crazy stuff like "McCain is a loser", "Blood coming out of everywhere" since it was followed by million such things.
Americans got desensitized to sexual abuse allegations against him as they kept coming.
Now Americans are getting desensitized to assassination attempts as well.
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It's still very early but I think Trump fever is slowly breaking (like Pete Buttigieg framed it). KH should have worked out something with the Teamsters to get their endorsement but oh well.

It's all down to turn out now. Dog whistles vs Abortion!
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Two people I love to see lose more than Trump are Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham. Graham is not for up for re-election this year, but Cruz is and is in a close race.
https://www.newsweek.com/ted-cruz-losin ... on-1956711
Texan-Desis, please make this possible!
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nodegree wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:38 am It's still very early but I think Trump fever is slowly breaking (like Pete Buttigieg framed it). KH should have worked out something with the Teamsters to get their endorsement but oh well.

It's all down to turn out now. Dog whistles vs Abortion!
The teamsters union polling reeks a lot of racism and sexism with little bit of fear of the unknown, considering that they had overwhelmingly voted in favor of Biden just a few months back. The saving grace is local chapters of the union like Western PA, MIchigan and the west coast have endorsed Kamala.
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SAPPORO wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:40 am
nodegree wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:38 am It's still very early but I think Trump fever is slowly breaking (like Pete Buttigieg framed it). KH should have worked out something with the Teamsters to get their endorsement but oh well.

It's all down to turn out now. Dog whistles vs Abortion!
The teamsters union polling reeks a lot of racism and sexism with little bit of fear of the unknown, considering that they had overwhelmingly voted in favor of Biden just a few months back. The saving grace is local chapters of the union like Western PA, MIchigan and the west coast have endorsed Kamala.
Quite strange that they were overwhelmingly backing Biden, then wanted to back Trump and now wanting to do nothing with Harris. Could be racist/sexist but there's also the fact that Harris is less union-friendly than Biden (but a lot more pro-union than Trump).
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nodegree wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:54 pm
SAPPORO wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:40 am
nodegree wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:38 am It's still very early but I think Trump fever is slowly breaking (like Pete Buttigieg framed it). KH should have worked out something with the Teamsters to get their endorsement but oh well.

It's all down to turn out now. Dog whistles vs Abortion!
The teamsters union polling reeks a lot of racism and sexism with little bit of fear of the unknown, considering that they had overwhelmingly voted in favor of Biden just a few months back. The saving grace is local chapters of the union like Western PA, MIchigan and the west coast have endorsed Kamala.
Quite strange that they were overwhelmingly backing Biden, then wanted to back Trump and now wanting to do nothing with Harris. Could be racist/sexist but there's also the fact that Harris is less union-friendly than Biden (but a lot more pro-union than Trump).
Biden bailed their pension funds out and Harris in fact cast the tiebreak vote for that legislation to pass. They associate Harris with Biden all the time, I am wondering why not so for this.
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SAPPORO wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:34 am Biden bailed their pension funds out and Harris in fact cast the tiebreak vote for that legislation to pass. They associate Harris with Biden all the time, I am wondering why not so for this.
Teamsters endorsed Obama in '08 , '12 and then endorsed Clinton in '16. I don't think it can be explained by race/misogyny. It could just be due to the fact that Tony West (who is also brother-in-law to KH) is a Sr campaign adviser to Harris' campaign. He's an Uber Executive (also an Amazon counsel on legislative matters) is a notorious union buster with a track record of lobbying (and successfully helping pass legislation) against organized labor.

Interesting article from NYT about Tony West and his record
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/04/us/p ... -west.html
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nodegree wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:53 am
SAPPORO wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:34 am Biden bailed their pension funds out and Harris in fact cast the tiebreak vote for that legislation to pass. They associate Harris with Biden all the time, I am wondering why not so for this.
Teamsters endorsed Obama in '08 , '12 and then endorsed Clinton in '16. I don't think it can be explained by race/misogyny. It could just be due to the fact that Tony West (who is also brother-in-law to KH) is a Sr campaign adviser to Harris' campaign. He's an Uber Executive (also an Amazon counsel on legislative matters) is a notorious union buster with a track record of lobbying (and successfully helping pass legislation) against organized labor.

Interesting article from NYT about Tony West and his record
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/04/us/p ... -west.html
I doubt a typical union guy would have all this information! There's Before Trump and After Trump in America. Trump has normalized racism and misogyny which was not the case before 2016.
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