US Elections 2024 - the most consequential election again!

[SAPPORO]

LOL news for this morning!
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Full disclosure, I bought a few DJT stock last Friday.

[SAPPORO]

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[Returning_Indian]

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Its looking like all these polls are wrong, once again. And that is the problem with polls. They cannot predict who has more energy and how many show up to vote.

[Returning_Indian]

Some findings from this election:

Musk has access to very large data through Twitter and could predict the winner based on the 'chatter'. This way he could bet on the right horse ahead of time. 40B looks like chump change now. I so wanted to invest in Tesla couple of months back but didn't want to gamble hard earned money. Obviously feels foolish now.

All these polls are meaningless. Very small sample size and too much bias. They are being used as tool to influence the message. These polls need to be banned like in India where poll data cannot be released until the voting is completed.

Economy is doing really bad than what govt data shows. I can see it in my industry where things have never been so bad. And it's supposed to be evergreen. Inflation is killing people. They are obviously not able to manage. Public doesn't care much about abortion rights. They are more concerned about paying bills.

Wars around the world are not going to fly with public. Especially when President is sleeping on the job and has no control over things. They obviously expect Trump to be more assertive.

More surprising is that Hispanics, blacks, muslims all voted for Trump in large numbers. Even worse is losing house and senate. That is really a big setback. Illegal immigration being favoured by democrats is a losing proposition even among Hispanics.

This win by Trump will completely change republicans now. Moderate repubs will be thing of the past. Tea party has now completely taken over GOP. This is certainly not good for country overall. It will give too much power to fringe elements and that will make lives harder for immigrants. Expect white supremacist groups to become more prominent and hate crimes to increase.

Trump has overperformed than his previous counts. He may even win a popular vote count. There was nothing 50-50, it looks like a whitewash.

[nodegree]

Looks like Trump is set to sweep MI, WI & PA, hence winning the election. I think in hindsight JD Vance as a VP pick worked out very well for him. KH should've taken a more populist campaign tone and shouldn't have relied on Liz Cheney and other neocons etc.

Dems also grossly miscalculated by letting Netanyahu run amok in Gaza. Even deep blue areas like NJ, NYC and Virginia moved closer to the right (didn't happen in 2016 & not since the 80s), so it just can't all be due to sexism & racism.

Edit: I''ll also add that Dems should've left Trump alone after 2021. Prosecuting him and bringing him back in to the arena did help in some elections in midterms etc., but it just ended up energizing his base.

[mcr]

To me, a casual observer of American politics, Joe Biden is responsible for democrats defeat. If he had stayed out of 2024 race, democrat primary voters would have elected some folksy mid western white male as their nominee who the rural and sub urban white voters would have felt safe voting for. Remember how the democrats coalesced around Biden in the 2020 primaries as he had a better chance of getting those white votes?
Kamala Harris is a way better human being and candidate than Trump. But she came with 3 handicaps - race, gender and a funny name with Indian heritage. Joe Biden forced her on the democrats. All the polls that said women are overwhelmingly voting for her, all were lies. Most white people, men and women eventually voted for Trump and he won.

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Now that the election is over, the only thing we can speculate is how a 2nd Donald Trump Administration is going to be like. Are we back in to the chaos like his first administration or will this time be different?

[JINSAKAI]

There were too many cats celebrating today

[Returning_Indian]

Now that the election is over, the only thing we can speculate is how a 2nd Donald Trump Administration is going to be like. Are we back in to the chaos like his first administration or will this time be different?

I suspect it will even be more dramatic as there are no other election for him to worry about. Plus he has all three houses in control. But there are some positives. He will work with Putin to stop that war. US needs to get out of Ukraine. He will also pressurize Putin to stop support for Iran and hopefully bring an end to Gaza war. So that leaves his trade war with China. Expect tariffs to go up, inflation to go up but maybe jobs to come back. If he reduces deficit then bond demand to climb down and hopefully interest rates to come down, so maybe some uptick in housing. Energy prices to come down due to stopping of war and increase in US production of oil/gas. Maybe Elon to stop wasteful spending. 80% of bloated govt sounds about right. Handouts to stop. Etc etc.

Or maybe nothing will happen and Michelle Obama will contest in 2028 elections. But Americans have shocked the world with this election. Atleast I cannot believe it.

[SAPPORO]

Now that the election is over, the only thing we can speculate is how a 2nd Donald Trump Administration is going to be like. Are we back in to the chaos like his first administration or will this time be different?

I suspect it will even be more dramatic as there are no other election for him to worry about. Plus he has all three houses in control. But there are some positives. He will work with Putin to stop that war. US needs to get out of Ukraine. He will also pressurize Putin to stop support for Iran and hopefully bring an end to Gaza war. So that leaves his trade war with China. Expect tariffs to go up, inflation to go up but maybe jobs to come back. If he reduces deficit then bond demand to climb down and hopefully interest rates to come down, so maybe some uptick in housing. Energy prices to come down due to stopping of war and increase in US production of oil/gas. Maybe Elon to stop wasteful spending. 80% of bloated govt sounds about right. Handouts to stop. Etc etc.

Or maybe nothing will happen and Michelle Obama will contest in 2028 elections. But Americans have shocked the world with this election. Atleast I cannot believe it.

Another woman, never again, it may work even in Bangladesh, Pakistan and Sri Lanka but not in the great USA!
Not sure if T will ever build the border wall in the south, but he sure has built the red wall in the Midwest. Unless Dems have a brash candidate like Trump, they have no hopes for the next dozen years at least. Get ready for Vance/Trump (Don Trump Jr) ticket in 2028! I know this since I live in FL that has not had a democratic governor for the last 25 years.