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Re: Champions Trophy 2025
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 11:05 am
by SAPPORO
More objective piece of stats on MSD.
ODI: career avg 50.57, last two years: 48.91
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin ... e=allround
T20I : career avg 37.6, last two years: 42.08
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin ... e=allround
In contrast, Sachin in the last 2 years
Tests: career avg 53.78, last two years: 30.92
ODIs: career avg 44.83, last two years: 31.5
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin ... e=allround
No need to even talk about other players like Kohli who has been out of form for 5-6 years
Re: Champions Trophy 2025
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 11:07 am
by Returning_Indian
SAPPORO wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 10:36 am
Returning_Indian wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 10:26 am
SAPPORO wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 10:21 am
LOL -No one was waiting for Dhoni to retire! In fact, he retired when he was 33 from test cricket and 37 from ODI and T20I. Even in his last ODI, everyone was counting on him to win the semifinal until a brilliant runout, he walked in when the score was 24-4!
Maybe you're getting confused with Sachin
Maybe you don't remember the questions over questions in press conferences and articles being written about him. He just dragged it out for so long. All for advertisers and ipl. Too much fascination for Thala?
It was because of jadeja that there was even a chance against NZ in that match or else Dhoni was playing a test match. He couldn't play well against NZ in that match.
Why would anyone question about his retirement when at the very minimum he was good at keeping, arguably the best in the country even now! I already gave the objective stats about the retirement age and not a subjective opinion.
Jadeja played the aggressor, but Dhoni was the anchor. The conditions were so bad that even the five-time century maker in that world cup could not last long. For God sakes, India was 5-3 and you blame the guy that was the last hope!
that was just a sample match. He didn't have a choice to play aggressor. He could hardly get the shots. It was similar performance in many matches and that is why people were questioning his place in the team. His instincts were just not the same.
It was similar to how people are dragging Virat and Rohit out now. That's exactly the problem with long term players. They do not want to leave and are too powerful for selectors to kick them out.
Forget about stats. Babar azam had a great fifty yesterday. He played great test match.
Re: Champions Trophy 2025
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 11:15 am
by SAPPORO
Returning_Indian wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 11:07 am
SAPPORO wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 10:36 am
Returning_Indian wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 10:26 am
Maybe you don't remember the questions over questions in press conferences and articles being written about him. He just dragged it out for so long. All for advertisers and ipl. Too much fascination for Thala?
It was because of jadeja that there was even a chance against NZ in that match or else Dhoni was playing a test match. He couldn't play well against NZ in that match.
Why would anyone question about his retirement when at the very minimum he was good at keeping, arguably the best in the country even now! I already gave the objective stats about the retirement age and not a subjective opinion.
Jadeja played the aggressor, but Dhoni was the anchor. The conditions were so bad that even the five-time century maker in that world cup could not last long. For God sakes, India was 5-3 and you blame the guy that was the last hope!
that was just a sample match. He didn't have a choice to play aggressor. He could hardly get the shots. It was similar performance in many matches and that is why people were questioning his place in the team. His instincts were just not the same.
It was similar to how people are dragging Virat and Rohit out now. That's exactly the problem with long term players. They do not want to leave and are too powerful for selectors to kick them out.
It was his style of batting all along. Play cautiously at first and then put pressure on the bowlers in the last couple of overs and he pulled it off more often than not.
I admired him even before he started playing for CSK. He almost never holed out in the deep and very rarely got run out. So, if he had played higher up in the order, he would have broken all records as evidenced by his 183 and 148 in his earlier years. But either he wanted or was forced by Greg Chappell to come down the order to bat with the tail and be the finisher, one of the best all-time along with Bevan and Hussey.
Re: Champions Trophy 2025
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:34 am
by Returning_Indian
It was surprising that WI and SL didn't even qualify for champions tournament. This is really sad for once great teams. WI has been on decline for a while and lately victims of the internal politics. Their players are more interested in playing for leagues than for their country. SL with once mighty silva and ranatunga are not able to get anything going. Is it a result of their internal political struggle that they are not giving opportunities to right class of players?
Minnows like Bangladesh and Afghanistan have done tremendous progress in last decade.
Re: Champions Trophy 2025
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:20 pm
by SAPPORO
Empty stands even for a game featuring India. ODI cricket is dead unless they adopt the changes proposed by Sachin way back when. Even I cannot come to grips with watching ODIs, but I like watching test cricket between top teams since it's a different ball game. Not sure why they have not discontinued ODIs especially after India's WC final loss at home. Maybe it would be finally gone once Rohit and Kohli retire since it's the only format they perform decently.
https://zeenews.india.com/cricket/what- ... %20of%2050.
Re: Champions Trophy 2025
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:45 pm
by Returning_Indian
LOL. Around US population of 300million people were watching it on jio app. Many many more on TV. Even a dud SA vs Afg was seen by around 80million people. And that's just India. Numbers would be much more if Pakistan, Bangladesh and rest of the world audience were included. This is what brings in advertisers and revenue. Everywhere I go people are watching Parks, shops, restaurant, malls. Worst is people in cars watching on the car screen while driving.
I am curious to see the numbers of India/Pak match. I think it will hit around 500million people in India on jio app alone. These numbers are way more than IPL viewers. If TV and app were included I think number may reach 600-700million people in India. Another 200million from Pak/Afg/Bang. Around billion people watching a match.
Re: Champions Trophy 2025
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:35 pm
by Returning_Indian
Jio app has added a link to visit advertisers on the side of the advert. So people can click and directly visit the link. I remember seeing it in ipl. This is so much beneficial for advertisers than on TV or stadium. Here they see the reaction to advert in live environment. Even if 1% of the people click that's 5million people visiting your site.
Re: Champions Trophy 2025
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 9:02 am
by SAPPORO
Returning_Indian wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:45 pm
LOL. Around US population of 300million people were watching it on jio app. Many many more on TV. Even a dud SA vs Afg was seen by around 80million people. And that's just India. Numbers would be much more if Pakistan, Bangladesh and rest of the world audience were included. This is what brings in advertisers and revenue. Everywhere I go people are watching Parks, shops, restaurant, malls. Worst is people in cars watching on the car screen while driving.
I am curious to see the numbers of India/Pak match. I think it will hit around 500million people in India on jio app alone. These numbers are way more than IPL viewers. If TV and app were included I think number may reach 600-700million people in India. Another 200million from Pak/Afg/Bang. Around billion people watching a match.
Hmm.. You should probably help the poor PCB to advertise the advertisers to get more advertising. They seem to be underselling to the advertisers.
https://championstrophy2025.com/icc-cha ... and-brands.
"India and knockout matches averaged 180 million viewers.
Top team matches during the 2023 World Cup averaged 130 million viewers.
These numbers indicate a high level of engagement, crucial for advertisers."
I can't believe busy Indians have 8 hours to spare in a single day. They may be catching some glimpses of it.
Even Modiji is of a similar opinion.
https://sports.ndtv.com/icc-champions-t ... ipl%20game.