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Re: USA Bashing
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 11:26 am
by SAPPORO
All progressive policies emanate from Europe and trickles down to the US years later. Europe is less polarized than the US and so phenomenon of one-step-forward and two-steps backward that happens in the US every 4 years, does not happen there. Europe has a similar landmass as the US, but the population is twice as much and also has a lot of historical towns - so no question of McMansions. But, all the worker-friendly policies are mostly only for locals. So, for average Desis, the US is the place to be if they can get in since "sab kuch chalta hai" in the US as it's a land of immigrants and the common language in some form or another helps huge as well.
Re: USA Bashing
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 11:28 am
by r2somewhere
SAPPORO wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 11:26 am
All progressive policies emanate from Europe and trickles down to the US years later. Europe is less polarized than the US and so phenomenon of one-step-forward and two-steps backward that happens in the US every 4 years, does not happen there. Europe has a similar landmass as the US, but the population is twice as much and also has a lot of historical towns - so no question of McMansions. But, all the worker-friendly policies are mostly only for locals. So, for average Desis, the US is the place to be if they can get in since "sab kuch chalta hai" in the US as it's a land of immigrants and the common language in some form or another helps huge as well.
For desis, the best formula is: Make money when young, healthy and ambitious in the US. Then spend retirement outside US, including for people like me, a few months in Europe every year.
BTW, Europe does have McMansions. Scenic Villas with pools can be had for under 500k in Tuscany, Italy.
Re: USA Bashing
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 11:44 am
by SAPPORO
r2somewhere wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 11:28 am
For desis, the best formula is: Make money when young, healthy and ambitious in the US. Then spend retirement outside US,
including for people like me, a few months in Europe every year.
BTW, Europe does have McMansions. Scenic Villas with pools can be had for under 500k in Tuscany, Italy.
I have/had similar plans of staying for a few months every year in Europe. On the flip side, outside touristy places, Europe is just like India but with the language issue and driving is as challenging as in India. I know this since I have been there many times and never took a packaged tour.
Re: USA Bashing
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:54 pm
by r2somewhere
SAPPORO wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 11:44 am
r2somewhere wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 11:28 am
For desis, the best formula is: Make money when young, healthy and ambitious in the US. Then spend retirement outside US,
including for people like me, a few months in Europe every year.
BTW, Europe does have McMansions. Scenic Villas with pools can be had for under 500k in Tuscany, Italy.
I have/had similar plans of staying for a few months every year in Europe. On the flip side, outside touristy places, Europe is just like India but with the language issue and driving is as challenging as in India. I know this since I have been there many times and never took a packaged tour.
How do you defined touristy area? I have also never taken a package tour. Spent a week in Tuscan countryside (yes, I drove) in a small village of less than 100 people and didnt feel out of place. I guess it was still touristy because we stayed in an Airbnb. That kind of bubble is good enough for me
Language can be an issue, yes. Wife and I are conversant in Spanish. Helped us a lot in Spain and even a bit in Italy (apparently, they understand Spanish if not English). Google translate fixed most issues.
Will this work for 2-3 months? I dont know. I have spent that kind of time in Mexico and done all right. So I imagine, Europe should be fine. If we are bored, we can just drive or take a train to another country for a few days
Re: USA Bashing
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 9:31 pm
by Returning_Indian
US has spent $175 billion for Ukraine war for nothing. This is the money it doesn't have and has borrowed to spend there. What a ridiculous waste by Biden and his cronies. Most of it I am sure results in corruption. Ukraine after receiving so much free money has no incentive to end the war. Heck I was a comedian, became prime minister by mistake, and now enjoying influx of free money at the expense of middle class America. And for what? Just so that some empty land transfers to its original owners among white people? This war is beyond ridiculous. This entire $175 billion corruption puts bribery in India look like peanuts.
Atleast in India media is always there to expose such scandals. In US, media keeps people busy with stupid issues while such huge corruption keeps happening in the background. So much for forth pillar.
Re: USA Bashing
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:15 am
by r2somewhere
Returning_Indian wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 9:31 pm
US has spent $175 billion for Ukraine war for nothing. This is the money it doesn't have and has borrowed to spend there. What a ridiculous waste by Biden and his cronies. Most of it I am sure results in corruption. Ukraine after receiving so much free money has no incentive to end the war. Heck I was a comedian, became prime minister by mistake, and now enjoying influx of free money at the expense of middle class America. And for what? Just so that some empty land transfers to its original owners among white people? This war is beyond ridiculous. This entire $175 billion corruption puts bribery in India look like peanuts.
Atleast in India media is always there to expose such scandals. In US, media keeps people busy with stupid issues while such huge corruption keeps happening in the background. So much for forth pillar.
$175 billion is a small investment to keep USD as the world reserve currency. FDR made similar investments from 1939-41 that led to Britain surviving the Germans and paid off handsomely later. Of course this time, Mussolini has taken over the White house, so outcome will be different. We will now see billions flowing into Elon's pockets.
Re: USA Bashing
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:47 am
by SAPPORO
"McConnell told The Financial Times that the cost of preventing war is significantly lower than the cost of fighting one. He pointed out that the U.S. spent 37 percent of GDP fighting in World War II, compared to 2.7 percent in 2023 on deterrence." If not for the US's strategic intervention, Putin would be sitting somewhere deep in western Europe. Obviously, all wars are not equal, Iraq and Afg wars were wasteful but this one without direct involvement is how it should be done.
India even when it was amidst a disastrous economy indulged in interventions in SL, FIJI, Mauritius and what not. In a hypothetical all-out conflict between India and Pak, should the US take sides or let the brown folks that look the same fight it out?!
Re: USA Bashing
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 8:46 pm
by Returning_Indian
r2somewhere wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:15 am
$175 billion is a small investment to keep USD as the world reserve currency. FDR made similar investments from 1939-41 that led to Britain surviving the Germans and paid off handsomely later. Of course this time, Mussolini has taken over the White house, so outcome will be different. We will now see billions flowing into Elon's pockets.
USD being reserve currency has nothing to do with Ukraine war. I don't even know what rest of the content has to do with corruption by Biden and public money being funneled to rich. It's amazing that people are not even looking at this corruption scandal and justifying with different lenses. This is classic case of media being sold out and public money being stolen in broad daylight and people are clapping.
Re: USA Bashing
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:57 pm
by mcr
I don't think US handed over 175B to Ukraine, much of it was in the form of arms and equipment and as usual the military industrial complex of the US is the main beneficiary.
Re: USA Bashing
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:28 am
by SAPPORO
It's the same old vile attitude of blaming the raped rather than the rapist with not even a passing mention of Putin's aggression. As the only world leader, the US is "damned if you do, damned if you don't" - no one expects a developing country like India to do anything in the world stage other than killing a few random folks in a foreign country just to score political gains and/or to be part of the 'big league" even fleetingly!