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SAPPORO wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 1:01 pm Bernie bros aren't going to fall for this trick again. "Fool me once, shame on you- fool me twice, shame on me!"!

That remains to be seen. If anything, Bernie himself became quite the supporter of Biden when every one in the DNC want him out.

SAPPORO wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 1:01 pm JD is totally financed by right wing big tech..

Just Peter Thiel. From what I gather he has his own agenda that's very divergent from the usual "Big Tech". Not saying it's good or bad, but Vance is not the regular funded by Big Tech senator.

Joker JD is far worse than Trump since at least Trump has been consistent on a few things like anti-immigration, anti-Islam, anti-free trade and so on.
But this joker called out Trump for his Islamophobia in 2016 and a couple of days ago he called UK as the first real Islamic country to get nuclear capabilities.
From "America's Hitler", Trump has become "America's savior" for him! MAGA republicans are already upset that their VP candidate has a kid named Vivek Begs the question, who the hell is he actually?

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-wife- ... te-1926194

nodegree wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 1:06 pm

SAPPORO wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 1:01 pm JD is totally financed by right wing big tech..

Just Peter Thiel. From what I gather he has his own agenda that's very divergent from the usual "Big Tech". Not saying it's good or bad, but Vance is not the regular funded by Big Tech senator.

Not such "Roth Cheat" Thiel, there are a few others as well!

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/17/tech ... alley.html
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-p ... 1624551401

SAPPORO wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 1:35 pm

nodegree wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 1:06 pm

SAPPORO wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 1:01 pm JD is totally financed by right wing big tech..

Just Peter Thiel. From what I gather he has his own agenda that's very divergent from the usual "Big Tech". Not saying it's good or bad, but Vance is not the regular funded by Big Tech senator.

Not such "Roth Cheat" Thiel, there are a few others as well!

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/17/tech ... alley.html
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-p ... 1624551401

All hall of famers! Thiel, Chamath, Sacks and of course Elmo.

It seems it's not a question of if but when Biden would be pushed out by the establishment elites. The reasoning is funny that polls indicate he can't win - any poll would have someone slightly ahead of the other and it does not mean the trailing candidate has to drop out. Moreover, Biden is only trailing within the margin of error, but Trump has been down 7-10% against Clinton and Biden at various times in 2016 and 2020 but was never asked to drop out and that's where DDD comes in:)
Be that as it may, it seems like Ka-ma-la/Evers or Kamala/Cooper ticket would be taking on Dump/Joker ticket!

Now that it's all but official - Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom who will get the nomination?

nodegree wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:03 pm Now that it's all but official - Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom who will get the nomination?

Kamala understandable, why Newsom, does he not have the reputation of bringing CA down?!
Both of them will be weaker than Biden against Trump. There would be chaos when Biden drops out since every TDH in disloyal (to the party) democrats other than possibly Menendez would think they are better candidates and wash their dirty linen in public!
If and when Kamala gets anointed, she would be hounded by Republicans for all her past word salads, migrant crisis, being dishonest with Americans for the last 4 years about Biden's 'dementia", questioning her citizenship, putting intense pressure on her to use 25th amendment to remove Biden now - maybe that's the only way she becomes the POTUS for a few months! America did not vote for the most qualified candidate in 2016 mostly because of being a woman and I doubt if they will go for Indo-African-American woman this time.

Looking at some of the backlash Usha Vance is getting and open discrimination Vivek Ramasamy got, was wondering where the Indian Americans fit.
H1B, Students are primarily democratic, and most Indians are too irrespective of their status. But the focus of the democratic party is more illegal immigrants, Blacks, and other minorities, not legal immigrants like Indians. Plus the First generation is looking to be part of politics, and sometimes they think getting an elite education would align them more with the Republican party. But the MAGA group will never support them no matter what although it is good there is some diversity in the Republic side. Blacks on the Democratic side also don't trust the Indian minority as they think Brown people don't understand their sacrifices and are also racist because of the casteism we come from.

ballare wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 1:06 pm Looking at some of the backlash Usha Vance is getting and open discrimination Vivek Ramasamy got, was wondering where the Indian Americans fit.
H1B, Students are primarily democratic, and most Indians are too irrespective of their status. But the focus of the democratic party is more illegal immigrants, Blacks, and other minorities, not legal immigrants like Indians. Plus the First generation is looking to be part of politics, and sometimes they think getting an elite education would align them more with the Republican party. But the MAGA group will never support them no matter what although it is good there is some diversity in the Republic side. Blacks on the Democratic side also don't trust the Indian minority as they think Brown people don't understand their sacrifices and are also racist because of the casteism we come from.

It's not factual to say that democrats don't support legal immigration. Most of the Indian-American USCs in their 50s now including me would not have got their GCs without 600K+ H1Bs approved just in Bill Clinton's second term and the AC21 that he passed before leaving office. It's the same case with the recent bipartisan immigration bill gutted by Dump solely for political purposes which had a lot of provisions including but not limited to protections for 250K Indian teenagers that were born in India and get "aged" out from their parent's dependent visas.
I would rather be supporting a party that's vastly inclusive being a minority than a party in which a lot of them think that being American requires being white. Even though I am a registered 'republican' I won't be voting for a Republican ever again for even a dog-catcher's position ironically inspired from Trump's oft-repeated rally poem of "snakes are always going to bite because it's in their nature".

For the uninitiated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSrOXvoNLwg