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Re: USA Bashing

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:34 pm
by r2somewhere
Razz R wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:34 pm manual->Automatic->FSD. Driving has come a long way in my life time.. Say what you may about Elon - once you have experienced this - there is no going back..
Why Elon? Waymo's self driving is actual self driving and much better.

Re: USA Bashing

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:40 pm
by r2somewhere
old-spice2 wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:37 pm Wisconsin couple sues Walgreens and Optum Rx, saying son died after $500 price rise for asthma meds

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wisconsin-co ... 52556.html

LIA folks should keep extra cash for such price increase or risk losing their life to medical industry.
But at least he didnt need to wait to refused his meds! He was rejected instantly!

Re: USA Bashing

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:42 pm
by SAPPORO
old-spice2 wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:37 pm Wisconsin couple sues Walgreens and Optum Rx, saying son died after $500 price rise for asthma meds

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wisconsin-co ... 52556.html

LIA folks should keep extra cash for such price increase or risk losing their life to medical industry.
They could have bought it for cheap from Canada instead of suing to get compensation most likely prodded by greedy lawyers.
https://www.canadadrugwarehouse.com/drug/advair-diskus

Re: USA Bashing

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:52 pm
by Returning_Indian
old-spice2 wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:37 pm Wisconsin couple sues Walgreens and Optum Rx, saying son died after $500 price rise for asthma meds

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wisconsin-co ... 52556.html

LIA folks should keep extra cash for such price increase or risk losing their life to medical industry.
This is indeed very sad that people are losing lives due to insurance profiteering. I recently read a post where a lady (nurse) lost all her savings and retirement to provide for cancer treatment as insurance refused to provide cover. Not sure of the details but that is gut wrenching behaviour by these corporations. To have good coverage one has to purchase very good cover, which generally is only available via employers pooling money. These insurance products available in markets have too many loopholes. My insurance back in 2013 was around 25k per year for family in a low cost city. Even at that time our organization was discussing how the pool of money was falling short in paying for the treatments by employees and they need to work on increasing yearly deductions, copays etc and restrict some treatments.
I can only imagine what it must be now. Probably around 50k and with lot less coverage.

I used to read articles on how inflation in healthcare and education is way over standard inflation rate (I think they projected 8-9%) and it will overwhelm the system. This was in early 2000s. At that time it didn't make much sense on the impact. But I guess it does now. Expensive therapies are hitting the market, people are living longer and getting sicker, overall population is getting unhealthy and consuming more of limited healthcare resources. Insurance companies are working on providing less coverage as competition is forcing them to keep prices in check. It's about time that laws were passed to not deny any treatment and then we may see insurance spike to reflect true costs. People can then stop spending money on useless cars, watches, phones and spend that on healthcare.

Overall, I also don't understand human priorities. US budget for NIH is 25bn while for defense it's closer to trillion. Shouldn't we be flooding money in research to find treatments for all possible diseases? Irony is that it affects everyone including elected officials. After food, shelter and education shouldn't it be medicine research?

Re: USA Bashing

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:31 am
by SAPPORO
Razz R wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:34 pm manual->Automatic->FSD. Driving has come a long way in my life time.. Say what you may about Elon - once you have experienced this - there is no going back..
Ain't getting anything from Elon - even if it's a flying car and it's free :)

Re: USA Bashing

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:40 am
by r2somewhere
SAPPORO wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:42 pm
old-spice2 wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:37 pm Wisconsin couple sues Walgreens and Optum Rx, saying son died after $500 price rise for asthma meds

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wisconsin-co ... 52556.html

LIA folks should keep extra cash for such price increase or risk losing their life to medical industry.
They could have bought it for cheap from Canada instead of suing to get compensation most likely prodded by greedy lawyers.
https://www.canadadrugwarehouse.com/drug/advair-diskus
But but...Canada bad...socialism bad...trudeau bad...etc

Re: USA Bashing

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:47 am
by SAPPORO
r2somewhere wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:40 am
SAPPORO wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:42 pm
old-spice2 wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:37 pm Wisconsin couple sues Walgreens and Optum Rx, saying son died after $500 price rise for asthma meds

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wisconsin-co ... 52556.html

LIA folks should keep extra cash for such price increase or risk losing their life to medical industry.
They could have bought it for cheap from Canada instead of suing to get compensation most likely prodded by greedy lawyers.
https://www.canadadrugwarehouse.com/drug/advair-diskus
But but...Canada bad...socialism bad...trudeau bad...etc
At least, they could have tried GoodRx in a local pharmacy - my local CVS has it for $47! They dropped the ball and trying to sue the deep-pocketed pharmacy companies at the behest of some random lawyer thereby increasing the prices more.

Re: USA Bashing

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:26 am
by Razz R
r2somewhere wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:34 pm
Razz R wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:34 pm manual->Automatic->FSD. Driving has come a long way in my life time.. Say what you may about Elon - once you have experienced this - there is no going back..
Why Elon? Waymo's self driving is actual self driving and much better.
the supervised FSD currently on offer is in no way bad.. its almost there

Re: USA Bashing

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:27 am
by Razz R
SAPPORO wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:31 am
Razz R wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:34 pm manual->Automatic->FSD. Driving has come a long way in my life time.. Say what you may about Elon - once you have experienced this - there is no going back..
Ain't getting anything from Elon - even if it's a flying car and it's free :)
you're missing out :)

Re: USA Bashing

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:31 am
by r2somewhere
Razz R wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:26 am
r2somewhere wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:34 pm
Razz R wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:34 pm manual->Automatic->FSD. Driving has come a long way in my life time.. Say what you may about Elon - once you have experienced this - there is no going back..
Why Elon? Waymo's self driving is actual self driving and much better.
the supervised FSD currently on offer is in no way bad.. its almost there
If its supervised, its not FSD