R2I Club Member Hangout

SAPPORO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:44 pm

nodegree wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:07 pm

SAPPORO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:19 pm Don't imagine the future to be like the past, it can be different as explained below.
It's almost certain that Kamala would be the first female POTUS - one way or another, either in the next few weeks or in Jan 2025!

I wouldn't count the chickens yet.. She remains a much awkward campaigner. Mind you, she didn't even past the first round in the Dem primaries in 2020.

No need to get elected for the VP to become the POTUS if and when the President resigns or forced to resign. That was the first part of my hypothesis!

Newsom is out! He endorsed Kamala Harris. So did Shapiro, Whitmer. This moved a lot faster than I thought.

nodegree wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:33 pm

SAPPORO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:44 pm

nodegree wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:07 pm

I wouldn't count the chickens yet.. She remains a much awkward campaigner. Mind you, she didn't even past the first round in the Dem primaries in 2020.

No need to get elected for the VP to become the POTUS if and when the President resigns or forced to resign. That was the first part of my hypothesis!

Newsom is out! He endorsed Kamala Harris. So did Shapiro, Whitmer. This moved a lot faster than I thought.

All of this don't matter as much as the big one I am waiting for - no, it's not Obama's- It's Taylor Swift's!,
VP running mate could be one of Cooper/Shapiro/Evers. all governors of battleground states. Sorry Whitmer, we need gender diversity on the ticket. Maybe Dems can set up a new Deputy president position ala deputy PMs in India so as to fit 2 out of the above 3.

SAPPORO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:31 am All of this don't matter as much as the big one I am waiting for - no, it's not Obama's- It's Taylor Swift's!,

Based on the events so far looks like “Don ko harana mushquil hi nahi, na-mumkin hai”, may be all Swifties turning blue will help

JINSAKAI wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:50 am

SAPPORO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:31 am All of this don't matter as much as the big one I am waiting for - no, it's not Obama's- It's Taylor Swift's!,

Based on the events so far looks like “Don ko harana mushquil hi nahi, na-mumkin hai”, may be all Swifties turning blue will help

Donny is toast - KamMam raises $50 M in a matter of hours yesterday from small donors- maybe what Donny needs badly is a few more convictions
Kamala can at least ensure all the dark blue stays blue and spend more money in battleground states to increase turnout since Dems win invariably when the turnout is higher - FL is up for grabs too with its current outrageous abortion ban at 6 weeks. Moreover, Donny is the only one that's too old to run now!

Good dems are backing Kamala without lot of bickering. She has a fair chance at this point, as long as she is cautious in front of media.

Would be exciting to have first woman President for US!

My DH who is first generation immigrant like myself said he can vote Nancy Pelosi as president but not Kamala Harris.
I asked why? He said she has not proven anything.
Pelosi is 84 years old, Kamala is 59 years (for politics,59 is relatively young).
Secondly, he says she laughs like horse!!
Give me a break. Now even her laugh is reason for not to vote her?

Being a woman myself, I feel women are graded differently than male counterpart in every single way in tech/politics/business you name it!
The way we dress, how our hair looks, how we laugh, how we walk etc. Good debate, grasp on issues are not the difference makers !!

I am sad that I am married to such a misogynist man !! We have a 24 year old daughter ourselves who is aspiring to raise to leadership role based on her stellar credentials and what example we are setting at home

RBee wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:08 pm My DH who is first generation immigrant like myself said he can vote Nancy Pelosi as president but not Kamala Harris.
I asked why? He said she has not proven anything.
Pelosi is 84 years old, Kamala is 59 years (for politics,59 is relatively young).
Secondly, he says she laughs like horse!!
Give me a break. Now even her laugh is reason for not to vote her?

Being a woman myself, I feel women are graded differently than male counterpart in every single way in tech/politics/business you name it!
The way we dress, how our hair looks, how we laugh, how we walk etc. Good debate, grasp on issues are not the difference makers !!

I am sad that I am married to such a misogynist man !! We have a 24 year old daughter ourselves who is aspiring to raise to leadership role based on her stellar credentials and what example we are setting at home

That's playing a woman card. Body language and communication mean a lot in positions of power. She needs to work on it, no two ways about it.
Any minority would have to work harder to break glass ceiling, but they are also getting an advantage because of minority status. I doubt she would have been ever picked for VP if she was a regular white male with that kind of social skills.

RBee wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:08 pm My DH who is first generation immigrant like myself said he can vote Nancy Pelosi as president but not Kamala Harris.
I asked why? He said she has not proven anything.
Pelosi is 84 years old, Kamala is 59 years (for politics,59 is relatively young).
Secondly, he says she laughs like horse!!
Give me a break. Now even her laugh is reason for not to vote her?

Being a woman myself, I feel women are graded differently than male counterpart in every single way in tech/politics/business you name it!
The way we dress, how our hair looks, how we laugh, how we walk etc. Good debate, grasp on issues are not the difference makers !!

I am sad that I am married to such a misogynist man !! We have a 24 year old daughter ourselves who is aspiring to raise to leadership role based on her stellar credentials and what example we are setting at home

Most men are like that vonly! I have no opinion of her other than that she can stop a crazy guy and his joker running mate from entering the WH. AFAIK, only VPs that dd anything in the last 25 years, Biden on the good side and Cheney on the bad side.
Laughing horse is better than "laughin hyena" memes by right wing which is going to come back and sink them in polls if that's all they have got against her.

I wonder JD repeatedly calling Kamala as a DEI candidate, what (s)would Usha think of herself ?!

If Kamala is a DEI candidate, so is JD as NYT points out
"Vance benefited from one of the most powerful forms of affirmative action that elite universities practice to attract low-income students: need-blind admissions. Like many elite schools, Yale pledges to help cover the cost of attending for poor students, and Vance wrote about receiving generous financial aid for law school not “because of anything I’d done or earned — it was because I was one of the poorest kids in school.”

"A promising white candidate from a county that sends few students to an elite college like Yale would get a strong look, even if that person’s grades and test scores were less impressive than other applicants’. (To be clear, I have no idea what kind of grades or scores Vance had.) Regardless of race, applicants from working-class backgrounds, especially if they were the first in their family to attend college, are deemed to add class diversity."

No, Biden did not need Kamala to get AA votes - AA voters revived his collapsing primary campaign in SC by overwhelmingly voting for him and Kamala probably got 1% (can't even find out exactly how much since she's not even on any list)! Forget 2020, even up until Sunday, Biden got the most support from AA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Sout ... al_primary

Biden probably picked Kamala because of her age and being a bit left to him, to appeal to younger voters.