India Bashing

[SAPPORO]

So you dont dispute my numbers. When did I say anything about protein powders? You agree that recommendation is min 100g of protein. How many Indians get that? I struggle to get it myself even with eating multiple eggs and meat daily.

Why do Indians hate protein? Such fear depite most Indians not even getting half the min suggested. But gorging on samosas and gulab jamun is considered 'balanced' diet.

I don't think Indians hate proteins. Many of them are vegetarians and do not even eat egg. So only source of protein is from pulses and soyabean which is not part of the regular food habit. Even NV families eat meat 1-2 times a week, it is not like Americans who eat meat in every meal including breakfast. Ahimsa ingrained in the culture/lifestyle has something to do with it?

Main source of protein for south Indians is filter coffee with lots of milk throughout the day and curd rice to end every meal including a pizza meal! Not sure what works, but seniors have definitely cracked the code, maybe eating less. On my recent trip, I met at least a dozen folks in their 80s and 90s all in decent physical condition and perfect mental condition!

[r2somewhere]

So you dont dispute my numbers. When did I say anything about protein powders? You agree that recommendation is min 100g of protein. How many Indians get that? I struggle to get it myself even with eating multiple eggs and meat daily.

Why do Indians hate protein? Such fear depite most Indians not even getting half the min suggested. But gorging on samosas and gulab jamun is considered 'balanced' diet.

I don't think Indians hate proteins. Many of them are vegetarians and do not even eat egg. So only source of protein is from pulses and soyabean which is not part of the regular food habit. Even NV families eat meat 1-2 times a week, it is not like Americans who eat meat in every meal including breakfast. Ahimsa ingrained in the culture/lifestyle has something to do with it?

Main source of protein for south Indians is filter coffee with lots of milk throughout the day and curd rice to end every meal including a pizza meal! Not sure what works, but seniors have definitely cracked the code, maybe eating less. On my recent trip, I met at least a dozen folks in their 80s and 90s all in decent physical condition and perfect mental condition!

There are 3 ways to look at the success of a nation's diet
1. Is it helping people live longer?
2. Is it helping people live healthier as they age?
3. If neither, is it at least helping them be athletic and attractive in younger years?

1. Examples of criteria 1 are the blue zones of the world. India is nowhere on this list.
2. Example of 2 - its not a statistical measurement, but just go to all airports around the world and notice which nationality is using the most wheelchairs (this despite that country's avg age much lower than developed countries)
3. Just look at olympic medals or any other fitness related criteria. Forget olympics, Just observe the high earning Indians in SV and compare to high earning folks from other ethnicities. What do you see?

[SAPPORO]

Main source of protein for south Indians is filter coffee with lots of milk throughout the day and curd rice to end every meal including a pizza meal! Not sure what works, but seniors have definitely cracked the code, maybe eating less. On my recent trip, I met at least a dozen folks in their 80s and 90s all in decent physical condition and perfect mental condition!

There are 3 ways to look at the success of a nation's diet
1. Is it helping people live longer?
2. Is it helping people live healthier as they age?
3. If neither, is it at least helping them be athletic and attractive in younger years?

1. Examples of criteria 1 are the blue zones of the world. India is nowhere on this list.
2. Example of 2 - its not a statistical measurement, but just go to all airports around the world and notice which nationality is using the most wheelchairs (this despite that country's avg age much lower than developed countries)
3. Just look at olympic medals or any other fitness related criteria. Forget olympics, Just observe the high earning Indians in SV and compare to high earning folks from other ethnicities. What do you see?

Not sure about the others- but it was s sight to behold to see all the wheelchairs lined up like they are on the Indy 500 racetrack on my recent trip! It's more to do with the fact that they are scared of making it to connecting flights and general lack of English knowledge than their physical abilities. The moment the airlines charge a few dollars for the wheelchair service, the numbers would go down drastically. Even I quipped to my DW that I am planning to take the same on my next trip

[r2somewhere]

I see a lot of similarities between Indian view on protein and American view on immigration. In principal, not against it. But object to every method of delivery

[Returning_Indian]

So you dont dispute my numbers. When did I say anything about protein powders? You agree that recommendation is min 100g of protein. How many Indians get that? I struggle to get it myself even with eating multiple eggs and meat daily.

Why do Indians hate protein? Such fear depite most Indians not even getting half the min suggested. But gorging on samosas and gulab jamun is considered 'balanced' diet.

100g depends on your body weight, age, activity. For 75kg person anything in the range of 60-80g is more than sufficient.

But it's not just about grams. You need amino acids from protein. If you eat lot of egg whites, you will get protein but not all of it is useful as it lacks enzymes from yolk to make that protein usable.

In any case, point is not about protein. It's about balanced meals and having healthy relationship with food. It's not just samosa/gulabjamun that is unhealthy. Brownies, and soda and mcmansion are equally unhealthy. Refined carbs/sugar is not something that you should eat in every meal. It can be an occasional treat. There is plenty of protein in balanced Indian meals that people eat everyday. Otherwise population would have withered long ago.

[r2somewhere]

So you dont dispute my numbers. When did I say anything about protein powders? You agree that recommendation is min 100g of protein. How many Indians get that? I struggle to get it myself even with eating multiple eggs and meat daily.

Why do Indians hate protein? Such fear depite most Indians not even getting half the min suggested. But gorging on samosas and gulab jamun is considered 'balanced' diet.

100g depends on your body weight, age, activity. For 75kg person anything in the range of 60-80g is more than sufficient.

But it's not just about grams. You need amino acids from protein. If you eat lot of egg whites, you will get protein but not all of it is useful as it lacks enzymes from yolk to make that protein usable.

In any case, point is not about protein. It's about balanced meals and having healthy relationship with food. It's not just samosa/gulabjamun that is unhealthy. Brownies, and soda and mcmansion are equally unhealthy. Refined carbs/sugar is not something that you should eat in every meal. It can be an occasional treat. There is plenty of protein in balanced Indian meals that people eat everyday. Otherwise population would have withered long ago.

60 gm of protein is 240 cal. Its only sufficient if your daily intake is 1200 calories per day. This is the recommendation based on studies for Indians by Indians. They didnt mention level of activity, so we can assume median or below.

No there isnt plenty of protein in Indian diets. That is why as an ethnicity, Indians are short, weak and skinny fat compared to other cultures. Not to mention one of the highest rates of diabetes.